Superman monti wont turn blue???? - Reef-Geeks

Saltcreep · Big-Geek

My superman montipora has never really gotten much blue to its base. Seems like even less lately. Its growing, and has good p/e and their bright red....
anyone have any experience with this? or notice what affects the blue? Its been about a year now of being patient waiting for it to happen, but nuthin..... anybody??

alk 9
Ca 420
mg 1400
1.025

zeros on the other params

chris&barb · Lost

I hear captken coming with potassium

Have you tried fraging a piece off and moving it to different levels to see if that helps with color?

Saltcreep · Big-Geek

I do, i've had a frag of it on a magnetic plug, up pretty high for 3 weeks now. its the same

IanH · I peed in your back yard!!

do you do any low nutrient stuff? like vodka/carbon dosing?

rgrking · Spawning

maybe there is to much of a kryponite level in your tank

spinycheek · Insert Custom Title Here

Sounds like not enough blue light, what is your lighting like?

Saltcreep · Big-Geek

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Originally Posted by IanH

do you do any low nutrient stuff? like vodka/carbon dosing?

no, but it did seem to get worse when i ran some quality carbon in a reactor for two weeks last month

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Originally Posted by rgrking

maybe there is to much of a kryponite level in your tank

lmao

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Originally Posted by spinycheek

Sounds like not enough blue light, what is your lighting like?

all ati..... 4 blueplus, 1 actinic, 1 aquabluespecial

Saltcreep · Big-Geek

spinycheek · Insert Custom Title Here

That looks blue to me

Pat B · Geektacular

I know try different lighting......... Like the t5s over my tank.

Barbara · Geekette

according to a bit of reading I've done, monti's don't like pristine water and carbon seems to fade their colors.....not sure if that helps or not.......we haven't been successful with monti's yet

Clownfish Sushi · Big-Geek

you also have to consider how much variation you're going to get depending on what the mother colony looked like. it could just be a genetic thing.

estanoche · I <3 the LEFT COAST!

i vote move it to less light - it could be bleached a bit

Also, whats your temp?? When my temps spike high everything bleaches, especially the montis ...

returnofsid · Reef-Geek

I'm with estanoche...well, not really, but I do agree with her. Mine seems to bleach out, in too much light, losing the vibrant blue. Moving it lower in the tank, regains the beautiful blue coloration.

Barbara · Geekette

well I'd go with joanne and mike's idea of perhaps it getting too much light......they both have beautiful colors in their monti's..................are you gonna try this john? what's the coloring of it like lately?

Saltcreep · Big-Geek

Sorry i didn't update this sooner, but we finally just moved it down to the bottom of the tank. Its been looking pretty bad the past week, bleaching white in a couple spots. The frag i have from a diff person is up higher, but on the back glass and is in low flow. It looks pretty blue now. When i get the clubs par meter back i'll check the one thats doing good as opposed to the one is thats doing bad (which is around 275 par maybe if i remember correct?)
anybody ever check the par over their healthy blue superman?
oh.. temp is usually around 79, but will swing 78 - 82 this time of year. And i haven't done any carbon dosing/ low nutrient stuff, and i haven't run carbon in the reactor in months, just gfo. Everything is doing great, my year long diatom bloom finally ended 2 weeks ago, and another frag of super looks great, and all other montis in the tank look awesome (3 diff caps, 2 diff digi's, 4 diff encrusting).....and no pests...... so wtf? flow and or lighting can be the only culprit right?

cdangel0 · Geek Story Teller

My sunset monti is doing great towards the top of my tank under MH (although they are getting a little old) - maybe you should try putting a piece in my tank and see how it does

Saltcreep · Big-Geek

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Originally Posted by cdangel0

My sunset monti is doing great towards the top of my tank under MH (although they are getting a little old) - maybe you should try putting a piece in my tank and see how it does

I wish it did as good as sunset, the piece i got from ellen 6 months ago is beautiful and growing like crazy in 3 diff parts of the tank
(high med and low light)

LadyOfIreland · Dr. Zoos

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Originally Posted by estanoche

i vote move it to less light - it could be bleached a bit

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Originally Posted by returnofsid

Mine seems to bleach out, in too much light, losing the vibrant blue. Moving it lower in the tank, regains the beautiful blue coloration.

Agreed to both. All blue corals I've ever had - of ALL types - have done really well under lower lighting. So I would definitely say lighting is the culprit.

Hope you figure it out soon!!

Barbara · Geekette

I think it's flow and lighting combined...........did you check the PARs yet?

[1 (permalink)] Posted by Saltcreep 06-03-2011, 04:37 PM	Big-Geek
Superman monti wont turn blue???? My superman montipora has never really gotten much blue to its base. Seems like even less lately. Its growing, and has good p/e and their bright red.... anyone have any experience with this? or notice what affects the blue? Its been about a year now of being patient waiting for it to happen, but nuthin..... anybody?? alk 9 Ca 420 mg 1400 1.025 zeros on the other params	Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: newark de Posts: 1,641 Gameroom cash: $535375 Rep Power: 62
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[4 (permalink)] Posted by IanH 06-03-2011, 05:24 PM	I peed in your back yard!!
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[5 (permalink)] Posted by rgrking 06-03-2011, 06:57 PM	Spawning
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[8 (permalink)] Posted by Saltcreep 06-03-2011, 07:49 PM	Big-Geek
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[10 (permalink)] Posted by Pat B 06-04-2011, 06:26 AM	Geektacular
I know try different lighting......... Like the t5s over my tank. __________________ "But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord.” Joshua 24:15b "HIS word is in my heart like a fire, a fire shut up in my bones. I am weary of holding it in; indeed, I cannot." Jeremiah 20:9b *Click on the ticker for the build thread.*	Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Camden, De Posts: 2,560 Gameroom cash: $1240165 Rep Power: 65
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[2 (permalink)] Posted by chris&barb 06-03-2011, 05:08 PM	Lost
I hear captken coming with potassium Have you tried fraging a piece off and moving it to different levels to see if that helps with color?	Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: De Posts: 12,272 Gameroom cash: $3501040 Rep Power: 100
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[3 (permalink)] Posted by Saltcreep 06-03-2011, 05:11 PM	Big-Geek
I do, i've had a frag of it on a magnetic plug, up pretty high for 3 weeks now. its the same	Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: newark de Posts: 1,641 Gameroom cash: $535375 Rep Power: 62
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[6 (permalink)] Posted by spinycheek 06-03-2011, 07:00 PM	Insert Custom Title Here
Sounds like not enough blue light, what is your lighting like?	Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 4,277 Gameroom cash: $1307222 Rep Power: 82
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[9 (permalink)] Posted by spinycheek 06-03-2011, 08:37 PM	Insert Custom Title Here
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[11 (permalink)] Posted by Barbara 06-05-2011, 09:52 AM	Geekette
according to a bit of reading I've done, monti's don't like pristine water and carbon seems to fade their colors.....not sure if that helps or not.......we haven't been successful with monti's yet __________________	Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 11,856 Gameroom cash: $4013819 Rep Power: 100
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[12 (permalink)] Posted by Clownfish Sushi 06-05-2011, 09:55 AM	Big-Geek
you also have to consider how much variation you're going to get depending on what the mother colony looked like. it could just be a genetic thing. __________________ Jason Golden http://www.clownfishsushi.com	Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 1,627 Gameroom cash: $39665 Rep Power: 49
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[13 (permalink)] Posted by estanoche 06-07-2011, 12:44 AM	I <3 the LEFT COAST!
i vote move it to less light - it could be bleached a bit Also, whats your temp?? When my temps spike high everything bleaches, especially the montis ... __________________ SAY NO TO FISH STICKS!! Put screened and vented lids on your tanks! My 80 Gal. Reef Tank Build: So this is where all my money goes My 25 Gal. QT/Angler Cube: A place for my money to QT/grow out Member/VP of Spokane Coeur d Alene Reef Society Friend me up on FB too!	Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 3,799 Gameroom cash: $1235065 Rep Power: 116
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[14 (permalink)] Posted by returnofsid 06-07-2011, 08:08 AM	Reef-Geek
I'm with estanoche...well, not really, but I do agree with her. Mine seems to bleach out, in too much light, losing the vibrant blue. Moving it lower in the tank, regains the beautiful blue coloration. __________________ Please click links for: Sid's tanks Randy's DIY Supplement Recipes Reef Chemistry Calculator	Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 324 Gameroom cash: $113360 Rep Power: 25
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[15 (permalink)] Posted by Barbara 06-12-2011, 10:55 AM	Geekette
well I'd go with joanne and mike's idea of perhaps it getting too much light......they both have beautiful colors in their monti's..................are you gonna try this john? what's the coloring of it like lately? __________________	Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 11,856 Gameroom cash: $4013819 Rep Power: 100
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[16 (permalink)] Posted by Saltcreep 07-22-2011, 01:44 PM	Big-Geek
Sorry i didn't update this sooner, but we finally just moved it down to the bottom of the tank. Its been looking pretty bad the past week, bleaching white in a couple spots. The frag i have from a diff person is up higher, but on the back glass and is in low flow. It looks pretty blue now. When i get the clubs par meter back i'll check the one thats doing good as opposed to the one is thats doing bad (which is around 275 par maybe if i remember correct?) anybody ever check the par over their healthy blue superman? oh.. temp is usually around 79, but will swing 78 - 82 this time of year. And i haven't done any carbon dosing/ low nutrient stuff, and i haven't run carbon in the reactor in months, just gfo. Everything is doing great, my year long diatom bloom finally ended 2 weeks ago, and another frag of super looks great, and all other montis in the tank look awesome (3 diff caps, 2 diff digi's, 4 diff encrusting).....and no pests...... so wtf? flow and or lighting can be the only culprit right?	Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: newark de Posts: 1,641 Gameroom cash: $535375 Rep Power: 62
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[17 (permalink)] Posted by cdangel0 07-22-2011, 01:55 PM	Geek Story Teller
My sunset monti is doing great towards the top of my tank under MH (although they are getting a little old) - maybe you should try putting a piece in my tank and see how it does	Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Delaware Posts: 2,241 Gameroom cash: $668787 Rep Power: 72
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[20 (permalink)] Posted by Barbara 07-28-2011, 10:51 AM	Geekette
I think it's flow and lighting combined...........did you check the PARs yet? __________________	Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 11,856 Gameroom cash: $4013819 Rep Power: 100
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