preds in the fuge? - Reef-Geeks

Variko · Big-Geek

Would it be wrong to add a predator or 2 to my 55g fuge? Im thinking a white eyed moray, snowflake moray, blood red hawk, pop eye soldierfish, or maybe grow a bunch of xenia in there and get a tassled file fish? Im thinking Ill be fine as long as whatever I place there doesnt eat pods.

spinycheek · Insert Custom Title Here

Should be able to, but remember that morays are escape artists and will crawl in pipes, overflows and out of the tank.

Saltcreep · Big-Geek

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Originally Posted by spinycheek

Should be able to, but remember that morays are escape artists and will crawl in pipes, overflows and out of the tank.

Thats for sure, and they can grow fast, and eat quite a bit.... lots of waste, but if your system can handle it, that would be pretty cool. but i'm not sure how happy it would be in a "fuge" type environment.
The xenia idea is cool, i heard that somewhere before.... that it can be used as a biological filter instead of, or with macro algae.

Variko · Big-Geek

The xenia with a file fish to eat it is where Im leaning. Plus a tassled file would look good among the algae

Barbara · Geekette

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Originally Posted by spinycheek

Should be able to, but remember that morays are escape artists and will crawl in pipes, overflows and out of the tank.

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Originally Posted by Saltcreep

Thats for sure, and they can grow fast, and eat quite a bit.... lots of waste, but if your system can handle it, that would be pretty cool. but i'm not sure how happy it would be in a "fuge" type environment.
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The xenia with a file fish to eat it is where Im leaning. Plus a tassled file would look good among the algae

skip the predator eels..........filefish and xenia is a cool idea though

....but the filefish will eat pods too so you'll need to set something else up to get your pods if you're thinking of pods for your main tank

Variko · Big-Geek

Theyd eat my pods too? Why does everything wanna eat my pods? It seems that this is my limiting stocking factor. I like too many pod dependant fish. Im getting a grouper, naming him earl and calling it a day. No need for delicate inverts or worrying about nitrates. Ill feel earl pod dependant fish.

rgrking · Spawning

you can raise baby clowns for Earl lol

spinycheek · Insert Custom Title Here

If the reason you want so many pods is for the dragonets, then you can just train them to eat frozen. It takes about 2 weeks, but it's not too difficult. I would actually recommend that so you are not wholly dependent on an unpredictable pod supply. It would be like keeping a python in your yard and hoping it finds enough of its own food.

shmoliken · Big-Geek

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If the reason you want so many pods is for the dragonets, then you can just train them to eat frozen. It takes about 2 weeks, but it's not too difficult. I would actually recommend that so you are not wholly dependent on an unpredictable pod supply. It would be like keeping a python in your yard and hoping it finds enough of its own food.

what's the secret training method, so that other fish don't get all the food?

rgrking · Spawning

put it in a cup in their favorite spot.

Variko · Big-Geek

Ill feed Earl platinums just to be a jerk lol.

rgrking · Spawning

NO!!!!!!

I just got one. It's way to pretty of a fish....

Variko · Big-Geek

I'll raise damsels to feed it.

estanoche · I <3 the LEFT COAST!

hahaha - on a side note, d3monic has a great video on training mandarins to eat in this thread Scooter/mandarine question - with all these types of picky fish, its about presenting food to them in a way they will be willing to try it, once they try it for a while, they move on to actually wanting to eat it - just like teaching your kids to eat broccoli by adding cheddar cheese sauce

spinycheek · Insert Custom Title Here

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what's the secret training method, so that other fish don't get all the food?

Isolate in a breeder net and wean them from live mysis and brine to thawed mysis and brine. Then start adding in bloodworms and selcon.

Variko · Big-Geek

I saw a video on melevsreef about how he fed his mandarin in a tank with agressive feeders. I dont really know why Im worried about pods. Mandarins are way down on my list. I should be stuffing my 55g fuge with macro, calling it a filter, and not caring about what the pods do. Do pods help feed corals?

rgrking · Spawning

Hmm not sure. Im sure the corals can eat the but I've never seen it myself.

[1 (permalink)] Posted by Variko 07-31-2011, 09:35 PM	Big-Geek
preds in the fuge? Would it be wrong to add a predator or 2 to my 55g fuge? Im thinking a white eyed moray, snowflake moray, blood red hawk, pop eye soldierfish, or maybe grow a bunch of xenia in there and get a tassled file fish? Im thinking Ill be fine as long as whatever I place there doesnt eat pods.	Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Posts: 1,427 Gameroom cash: $358075 Rep Power: 36
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[7 (permalink)] Posted by rgrking 08-01-2011, 05:03 PM	Spawning
you can raise baby clowns for Earl lol __________________ RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8 Friend me up on Facebook Glen King	Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sullivan, Missouri, USA Posts: 10,000 Gameroom cash: $1656070 Rep Power: 164
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[10 (permalink)] Posted by rgrking 08-01-2011, 08:21 PM	Spawning
put it in a cup in their favorite spot. __________________ RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8 Friend me up on Facebook Glen King	Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sullivan, Missouri, USA Posts: 10,000 Gameroom cash: $1656070 Rep Power: 164
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[12 (permalink)] Posted by rgrking 08-01-2011, 08:46 PM	Spawning
NO!!!!!! I just got one. It's way to pretty of a fish.... __________________ RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8 Friend me up on Facebook Glen King	Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sullivan, Missouri, USA Posts: 10,000 Gameroom cash: $1656070 Rep Power: 164
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[14 (permalink)] Posted by estanoche 08-02-2011, 12:05 AM	I <3 the LEFT COAST!
hahaha - on a side note, d3monic has a great video on training mandarins to eat in this thread Scooter/mandarine question - with all these types of picky fish, its about presenting food to them in a way they will be willing to try it, once they try it for a while, they move on to actually wanting to eat it - just like teaching your kids to eat broccoli by adding cheddar cheese sauce __________________ SAY NO TO FISH STICKS!! Put screened and vented lids on your tanks! My 80 Gal. Reef Tank Build: So this is where all my money goes My 25 Gal. QT/Angler Cube: A place for my money to QT/grow out Member/VP of Spokane Coeur d Alene Reef Society Friend me up on FB too!	Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 3,799 Gameroom cash: $1235065 Rep Power: 116
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[2 (permalink)] Posted by spinycheek 07-31-2011, 10:09 PM	Insert Custom Title Here
Should be able to, but remember that morays are escape artists and will crawl in pipes, overflows and out of the tank.	Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 4,277 Gameroom cash: $1307222 Rep Power: 82
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[4 (permalink)] Posted by Variko 07-31-2011, 11:27 PM	Big-Geek
The xenia with a file fish to eat it is where Im leaning. Plus a tassled file would look good among the algae	Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Posts: 1,427 Gameroom cash: $358075 Rep Power: 36
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[6 (permalink)] Posted by Variko 08-01-2011, 11:25 AM	Big-Geek
Theyd eat my pods too? Why does everything wanna eat my pods? It seems that this is my limiting stocking factor. I like too many pod dependant fish. Im getting a grouper, naming him earl and calling it a day. No need for delicate inverts or worrying about nitrates. Ill feel earl pod dependant fish.	Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Posts: 1,427 Gameroom cash: $358075 Rep Power: 36
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[8 (permalink)] Posted by spinycheek 08-01-2011, 05:55 PM	Insert Custom Title Here
If the reason you want so many pods is for the dragonets, then you can just train them to eat frozen. It takes about 2 weeks, but it's not too difficult. I would actually recommend that so you are not wholly dependent on an unpredictable pod supply. It would be like keeping a python in your yard and hoping it finds enough of its own food.	Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 4,277 Gameroom cash: $1307222 Rep Power: 82
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[11 (permalink)] Posted by Variko 08-01-2011, 08:43 PM	Big-Geek
Ill feed Earl platinums just to be a jerk lol.	Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Posts: 1,427 Gameroom cash: $358075 Rep Power: 36
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[13 (permalink)] Posted by Variko 08-01-2011, 08:50 PM	Big-Geek
I'll raise damsels to feed it.	Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Posts: 1,427 Gameroom cash: $358075 Rep Power: 36
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[16 (permalink)] Posted by Variko 08-02-2011, 08:16 AM	Big-Geek
I saw a video on melevsreef about how he fed his mandarin in a tank with agressive feeders. I dont really know why Im worried about pods. Mandarins are way down on my list. I should be stuffing my 55g fuge with macro, calling it a filter, and not caring about what the pods do. Do pods help feed corals?	Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Posts: 1,427 Gameroom cash: $358075 Rep Power: 36
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[17 (permalink)] Posted by rgrking 08-02-2011, 03:14 PM	Spawning
Hmm not sure. Im sure the corals can eat the but I've never seen it myself. __________________ RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8 Friend me up on Facebook Glen King	Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sullivan, Missouri, USA Posts: 10,000 Gameroom cash: $1656070 Rep Power: 164
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