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Progress on Vaccine for 'Ich'
| [1 (permalink)] Posted by techguy 08-26-2010, 07:39 PM |
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For now you will still have to QT fish, give them garlic enriched food, and hope they pull through. Soon there could be a vaccine to prevent ich in your little (or big) fishy friend(s).
QT of newly acquired livestock for an appropriate length of time would still seem a good idea in hopes of preventing the spread of ich as well as other ailments to established livestock. At least they are working toward a vaccine which is good news for many people...well really it's good news for our fish friends. Quote:
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| [3 (permalink)] Posted by estanoche 08-27-2010, 01:37 PM |
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why do you have to bring up natural selection - that always ruins a good immunity/medicine/vaccine story!!
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| [4 (permalink)] Posted by techguy 08-27-2010, 01:42 PM |
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It is not in human nature to accept natural selection. Many of us would not be around as modern medicine and vaccines have saved countless lives.
I won't dive into whether it is right or wrong (which would only be opinion anyway) to side step the natural course of life but rather will only state that it is what we as a species do. |
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| [5 (permalink)] Posted by Barbara 08-27-2010, 01:46 PM |
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I think it would be pretty cool to be able to prevent these parasites from killing off our fish
... though I'd also need an awful lot of evidence (a few years worth at least) proving it's safe for all and it works....but neat article!
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| [6 (permalink)] Posted by high tide 08-27-2010, 05:46 PM |
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I know, its just another way to trick people into thinking I have intelligence, can't fool all the people all the time huh?
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| [7 (permalink)] Posted by techguy 08-27-2010, 05:56 PM |
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![]() ![]() Oh you mean this guy... ![]() Genetically engineered fish. Frankly (no pun intended) I am not one to add anything in a tank aside from adding the freshly mixed water. There are exceptions though I would not take them lightly. So would I add this vaccine for my fish? Probably not becuase I truly believe one can buy healthy fish and QT everything for a good amount of time which will avoid any need for this. I can certainly understand why others would use this if it were available though. |
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| [9 (permalink)] Posted by LauraCline 09-24-2010, 08:06 PM |
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I wonder if this will be for both fresh and marine? The article mentions the species of ich as "Ichthyophthirius" which must be freshwater because afaik marine ich is "cryptocaryon irritans".
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| [10 (permalink)] Posted by Jcling 09-25-2010, 11:13 AM |
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Going out on a limb here, but vaccines are for viruses not parasites...
You also can't vaccinate something effectively if they have been infected by the virus. Thirdly, I am under the train of thought that all fish express diseases such as ich while under stress. As you decrease the amount of stress, and take care of them by improving their current conditions, this parasite, is basically not an issue. From my experience at least. So either we get rid of one parasite that is expressed when a fish is stressed, or we take better care of the fish ![]() Thoughts? |
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| [11 (permalink)] Posted by greenbean36191 09-25-2010, 03:19 PM |
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Most vaccines are for viruses, but you can make a vaccine for anything that the body produces an acquired immune response for. For example there are vaccines against the plague and Lyme disease bacteria and you can even get your dog vaccinated against rattlesnake venom. We know that fish acquire resistance to both FW and SW ich after exposure, and in FW ich the mechanism is fairly well studied, so we know that vaccines should work against both parasites (EDIT: but not the same vaccine for both).
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| [12 (permalink)] Posted by Barbara 09-25-2010, 05:04 PM |
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huh.........I didn't know about vaccines for other parasites greenbeans......very interesting to say the least
.......good insight on the fish stress too....I think we all like to think we're doing the best we can to keep our fish happy and many of us also think it will prevent an ich outbreak...but if you really think about it I guess we can't in this hobby
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