Coast to Coast without drilling? - Reef-Geeks

rgrking · Spawning

I like my overflows, but I don't like them at the same time. It's taking up swimming room. I was thinking about adding a coast to coast along the back. Only about 4" deep and wide, and then draw down the water for my sump from it. then I can move one of the overflows closer to the spot they enter the sump.

The overflow that's far away will not restart on its own, so I get flooding. I've got to keep this from happening. Not 100% sure how though. Ideas?

this thread describes the overflow and system
finally a sump

estanoche · I <3 the LEFT COAST!

Id think you could use a HOB return with the coast to coast - but hmmm, how do you get it to auto-restart since gravity won't really be on your side???

........................ thinking.......................

anyone else have ideas?

rgrking · Spawning

I have a couple of lift pumps, but I don't think that's enough to get them restarted in time.

Daimyo68 · Fresh Squid

What kind of overflows/drains are you using now?

rgrking · Spawning

it's modeled after this design

DIY OverFlow Pipe

Daimyo68 · Fresh Squid

First I would try using the Aqualifter on the pipe that won't restart on it's own. I'm sure you have seen the HoB overflows with the Aqualifter. They do the same thing. When power goes out and then comes back on, the AL will evacuate all of the air from the tube and start the siphon.

I'm assuming your tank has no holes drilled at all?

As for a C2C overflow, your still going to have the same situation with getting a siphon to start again if your using a HoB type of setup. The only way I would recommend installing a C2C would be if you have the ability/room to drill for bulkheads on the back of the tank, and install the BeanAnimal Drain system or Herbie.

donkey · Big-Geek

It should not need any pump to start the overflow back up,sounds like there might be a leak on one of the joints and its letting air into it

rgrking · Spawning

I glued all the joints on the inside and out. I need to take a pic of the and put them up so u can see what I have going on.

donkey · Big-Geek

Sounds good

rgrking · Spawning

ok here's the one that's the furthest away from where it drains into the sump. Both of my overflows will stop and not restart.

If a video would help let me know.

I have holes drilled just above the water line on the pipe going into the sump also.

donkey · Big-Geek

Hi

Its hard for me to tell by looking at the pictures,but how high is the T piece. it should be a little higher than the intake. Have a look at this diagram. Are your T piece higher ? Also the pipe that goes into the sump must be above the water and not below it

rgrking · Spawning

you know. I'm not sure if the T is below the intake. I'll have to do some checking. It's close.

[1 (permalink)] Posted by rgrking 12-06-2011, 11:34 PM	Spawning
Coast to Coast without drilling? I like my overflows, but I don't like them at the same time. It's taking up swimming room. I was thinking about adding a coast to coast along the back. Only about 4" deep and wide, and then draw down the water for my sump from it. then I can move one of the overflows closer to the spot they enter the sump. The overflow that's far away will not restart on its own, so I get flooding. I've got to keep this from happening. Not 100% sure how though. Ideas? this thread describes the overflow and system finally a sump __________________ RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8 Friend me up on Facebook Glen King	Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sullivan, Missouri, USA Posts: 10,000 Gameroom cash: $1656070 Rep Power: 164
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[2 (permalink)] Posted by estanoche 12-07-2011, 11:24 AM	I <3 the LEFT COAST!
Id think you could use a HOB return with the coast to coast - but hmmm, how do you get it to auto-restart since gravity won't really be on your side??? ........................ thinking....................... anyone else have ideas? __________________ SAY NO TO FISH STICKS!! Put screened and vented lids on your tanks! My 80 Gal. Reef Tank Build: So this is where all my money goes My 25 Gal. QT/Angler Cube: A place for my money to QT/grow out Member/VP of Spokane Coeur d Alene Reef Society Friend me up on FB too!	Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 3,799 Gameroom cash: $1235065 Rep Power: 116
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[3 (permalink)] Posted by rgrking 12-07-2011, 11:45 AM	Spawning
I have a couple of lift pumps, but I don't think that's enough to get them restarted in time. __________________ RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8 Friend me up on Facebook Glen King	Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sullivan, Missouri, USA Posts: 10,000 Gameroom cash: $1656070 Rep Power: 164
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[4 (permalink)] Posted by Daimyo68 12-09-2011, 11:08 AM	Fresh Squid
What kind of overflows/drains are you using now? __________________ 75g Mixed Reef, 40B Sump with 14g Fuge, Mag12 Return, Bubble Magus NAC6, 2xMP40W, 2x150w Pheonix 14k, 8x20w Blue LED ---150g Custom (52x28x25) in the works. If your going to release your captive Lionfish (or any fish for that matter), take it to your LFS. They will most likely give you a small store credit that is worth more than the gas you will spend driving to the beach.	Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Palm Beach, Florda Posts: 194 Gameroom cash: $64530 Rep Power: 12
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[5 (permalink)] Posted by rgrking 12-09-2011, 08:03 PM	Spawning
it's modeled after this design DIY OverFlow Pipe __________________ RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8 Friend me up on Facebook Glen King	Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sullivan, Missouri, USA Posts: 10,000 Gameroom cash: $1656070 Rep Power: 164
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[6 (permalink)] Posted by Daimyo68 12-09-2011, 10:54 PM	Fresh Squid
First I would try using the Aqualifter on the pipe that won't restart on it's own. I'm sure you have seen the HoB overflows with the Aqualifter. They do the same thing. When power goes out and then comes back on, the AL will evacuate all of the air from the tube and start the siphon. I'm assuming your tank has no holes drilled at all? As for a C2C overflow, your still going to have the same situation with getting a siphon to start again if your using a HoB type of setup. The only way I would recommend installing a C2C would be if you have the ability/room to drill for bulkheads on the back of the tank, and install the BeanAnimal Drain system or Herbie. __________________ 75g Mixed Reef, 40B Sump with 14g Fuge, Mag12 Return, Bubble Magus NAC6, 2xMP40W, 2x150w Pheonix 14k, 8x20w Blue LED ---150g Custom (52x28x25) in the works. If your going to release your captive Lionfish (or any fish for that matter), take it to your LFS. They will most likely give you a small store credit that is worth more than the gas you will spend driving to the beach.	Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Palm Beach, Florda Posts: 194 Gameroom cash: $64530 Rep Power: 12
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[7 (permalink)] Posted by donkey 12-09-2011, 11:42 PM	Big-Geek
It should not need any pump to start the overflow back up,sounds like there might be a leak on one of the joints and its letting air into it __________________ I Will Not Be Pushed, Filed, Stamped, Indexed, Briefed, Debriefed Or Numbered. My Life Is My Own.	Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: England Posts: 1,061 Gameroom cash: $486800 Rep Power: 49
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[8 (permalink)] Posted by rgrking 12-10-2011, 05:53 PM	Spawning
I glued all the joints on the inside and out. I need to take a pic of the and put them up so u can see what I have going on. __________________ RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8 Friend me up on Facebook Glen King	Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sullivan, Missouri, USA Posts: 10,000 Gameroom cash: $1656070 Rep Power: 164
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[9 (permalink)] Posted by donkey 12-10-2011, 06:49 PM	Big-Geek
Sounds good __________________ I Will Not Be Pushed, Filed, Stamped, Indexed, Briefed, Debriefed Or Numbered. My Life Is My Own.	Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: England Posts: 1,061 Gameroom cash: $486800 Rep Power: 49
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[10 (permalink)] Posted by rgrking 12-11-2011, 08:21 PM	Spawning
ok here's the one that's the furthest away from where it drains into the sump. Both of my overflows will stop and not restart. If a video would help let me know. I have holes drilled just above the water line on the pipe going into the sump also. __________________ RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8 Friend me up on Facebook Glen King	Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sullivan, Missouri, USA Posts: 10,000 Gameroom cash: $1656070 Rep Power: 164
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[11 (permalink)] Posted by donkey 12-12-2011, 12:16 AM	Big-Geek
Hi Its hard for me to tell by looking at the pictures,but how high is the T piece. it should be a little higher than the intake. Have a look at this diagram. Are your T piece higher ? Also the pipe that goes into the sump must be above the water and not below it __________________ I Will Not Be Pushed, Filed, Stamped, Indexed, Briefed, Debriefed Or Numbered. My Life Is My Own.	Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: England Posts: 1,061 Gameroom cash: $486800 Rep Power: 49
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[12 (permalink)] Posted by rgrking 12-12-2011, 08:09 PM	Spawning
you know. I'm not sure if the T is below the intake. I'll have to do some checking. It's close. __________________ RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8 Friend me up on Facebook Glen King	Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sullivan, Missouri, USA Posts: 10,000 Gameroom cash: $1656070 Rep Power: 164
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